"...I think that the universe is our creator.
And to me the divine is the universe itself. And specifically
it’s manifestation as energy, as opposed to matter or as a
more tangible, palpable thing. And so far as I can tell, neither
science nor any religion can explain the origin of the
universe. If you talk about it—and SASHA did a good job of
satirizing this—the “big bang,” and so forth. The universe
was created in this big bang, and is so old. Okay, but if there’s
no universe and no temporal era, when did that happen,
where did it happen, and where did it come from? So you’re
still postulating the universe, basically. And if they say, “Okay,
this or that deity created it,” or that life actually came in interstellar
dust, you’re still just pushing away and farther back.
But where did that start? Where was this deity standing if
there was no universe? Where did she come from? Out of
what was this created? And so I just think that it’s something
that we can’t know. It’s unknowable. I haven’t experienced it
as plant-spirits, and so I can’t vouch for that particular way
of seeing it. But I would never say that it’s for pinheads or
pea-brains or whatever, or negate someone else’s perception
of it. I have to admit that that is possible. And it’s certainly
plausible. And so I try not to believe in anything, but the
other side of that coin is not to disbelieve in anything either.
And I try to just enjoy and live with the uncertainty of not
knowing. I just think there are things that we can not know.
The whole business of religion—and science has gone into
that same business, and now everybody and his brother is
exploiting the breach that science has more or less vacated
by not doing such a good job of it—is offering certainty to
people, when basically the universe gives us questions not
answers. People don’t want to live in uncertainty. RICHARD
FEYNMAN said it really well. He said, “I can live with doubt
and uncertainty and not knowing. I think it is much more
interesting to live not knowing than to have answers which
might be wrong…I don’t have to know an answer. I don’t feel
frightened by not knowing things, by being lost in a mysterious
universe without a purpose, which is the way it really is
as far as I can tell.”
Jonathan Ott Speaks part two
Interview with 'The Entheogen Review'